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lukas_oldenburg · ‎07-14-2015

Thanks! So do I understand you correctly that what Craig described is not available yet? We have this extension from Roshan that checks load rules again AFTER extensions have run, but obviously this won't solve the problem because the load rules are ALSO checked BEFORE Extensions (if I understand the extension correctly), and before the Extensions the load rule fits, just not after that. I'd love to chat with you on that. I asked Niall O'Shea to give you my Skype contacts.

lukas_oldenburg · ‎07-13-2015

Hi Master Craig, we use utag version "ut4.36.201507131252" I tried just that: 1. I created a Data Source "webtrendsflag" 2. Created a Set Data Values Extension that sets the "webtrendsflag" to "false" (as a text string) if "event category" = "content" 3. Changed the load rule for the Webtrends to fire whenever "webtrendsflag" does not equal "false". => Webtrends still fires on every utag.link call, even when event category = "content". Master Adrian's solution worked by the way, but I prefer the load rule approach as it is something which the JS-not-allowed users could do themselves as well. And it is personally concerning because I was sure this was going to work and told my client to go for this (Craig's) solution for some of his other tags - I will lose all credibility... (ok, maybe not... :). Lukas

lukas_oldenburg · ‎07-08-2015

ok, thank you!

lukas_oldenburg · ‎07-07-2015

Thank you. Can you explain what needs to be done if we don't use the proprietary Tealium data source names? (e.g. we don't use "product_name", but a "flat W3c notation like product_productInfo_name" etc.).

lukas_oldenburg · ‎07-06-2015

I have seen only integration specs for Hybris's B2C platform, but none for B2B yet. Our Hybris developers say that adapting this extension to the B2B platform would require a bit of work. Is there a Tealium extension available for both? Can someone send us the specification?

lukas_oldenburg · ‎07-06-2015

Hasn't a Hybris integration been out for a while now? I have seen only integration specs for Hybris's B2C platform, but none for B2B yet. Is there a Tealium extension available for both maybe?

lukas_oldenburg · ‎02-10-2015

I did contact my AM in the meantime and we are trying to solve this together. Anyhow, I think this must be an issue that comes up with ANY Webtrends implementation (because the WT standard is to always persist variables generated on the initial pageview). That's why I would be grateful for some experiences in this field. How did Tealium implementors solve this problem in the past?

lukas_oldenburg · ‎02-09-2015

HI Steve, thanks for the answer. I am just wondering: Is the "Replicate" Plugin in the Webtrends Tag Configuration maybe the "Streams" Plugin? If so, Tealium would be cool to note that in the Tag setup instructions or in the little overlay text. To me, the word "replicate" reminds me of the streams code: https://forums.webtrends.com/webtrends/topics/webtrends-campaign-streams-javascript-tracking-code Lukas

lukas_oldenburg · ‎02-06-2015

I don't see this as an option in the tag settings.

lukas_oldenburg · ‎02-06-2015

I asked this related question and could solve it already: https://community.tealiumiq.com/questions/141703 But now I am facing the opposite challenge: I have a page where user click on filter causes an event where Webtrends parameter "eventPar1" gets set to value "clicked" (set via utag.link UDO variable) . Now on the same page, another event is triggered; also via utag.link, but with a different parameter (eventPar1 is not used, instead it is eventPar2). However, Webtrends now always sets eventPar1 = "clicked" with this second event as well. In a traditional WT implementation, I would do something like this: Webtrends.multiTrack({ argsa: ["DCS.dcsuri", "/home/help", "WT.i_custom", "12345"], finish: function (dcsObject, mtrackObject) { dcsObject.WT.i_custom = ""; } }); The part after "finish" resets the Variables used for Event Tracking. But setting the eventPar1 UDO variable to "" on the second Event Call does not help unfortunately. Can someone help here?

lukas_oldenburg · ‎02-06-2015

Ok, I found out that I have to set "Preserver" in the WT Tag settings to "false". A bit misleading, I would expect that "Preserve" means that the initial values are kept for any later utag.link calls, but it is the other way round.

lukas_oldenburg · ‎02-06-2015

Usually, Webtrends works like this: When a pageview happens, several Parameters are set, e.g. Page Title, Page Category or whatever Custom Parameter you set. When, on the same page after the pageview, you fire an Event, usually all the Parameters set upon Pageview are automatically sent again with the event. So for example: 1. Pageview Request: Parameter "DCSext.pagelanguage" is set to "English" and sent to WT with the Pageview Request 2. Then, a click on a "more" link fires an Event (dcsMultiTrack) with the additional Parameter "DCSext.eventcategory = "more link clicked". Automatically, the DCSext.pagelanguage parameter is sent with this request as well. In Tealium though, it seems as if I have to set ALL parameters I need with every utag.link call again. In the above example, the utag.link call would only send the DCSext.eventcategory parameter, but not the DCSext.pagelanguage parameter. That creates quite an overhead. So am I missing something? Or what is the best way to accomplish Parameters from the Pageview to persist across Event Calls?

lukas_oldenburg · ‎11-10-2014

Thanks a lot. I guess it is no problem though using Tealium for Webtrends dcsMUltiTrack calls only and making sure it fires only on utag.link() calls (?). Or would you entirely avoid using the Webtrends Tag from the Tealium Tag Library for this case and do it all with Custom JS Extensions?

lukas_oldenburg · ‎11-10-2014

Thanks, Jared, that is quite a helpful answer and lets me sleep better! If anyone can chime in on nr. 3) though, that would be awesome.

lukas_oldenburg · ‎11-10-2014

These are actually several questions: 1. The IT team of my client has no resources right now to take the Webtrends base tag (script version 10.4) out of their HTML templates (it is quite risky, too). The client nevertheless wants to start using Tealium to enhance the current tracking, e.g. we want to add parameters to the Webtrends tag via Tealium (as if we were adding additional Webtrends Meta Tags or Webtrends JavaScript variables to the head). a) Is this only possible if the utag.sync.js file is included as well (and above the existing Webtrends tag in the head of the page)? b) Could I for example set additional parameters via a synchronously loading JS Extension that the Webtrends Base tag uses then? c) Is it possible at all to include synchronously loading JS via Tealium? I can't find a "sync" Scope in JS Extensions. d) Is it mandatory to include the utag.sync.js at the start of the body tag? So far, I had always thought it has to go into the head? Could it go into the head above the existing Webtrends head tag for example? 2. I also read that it is not possible to test utag.sync.js via switching to another environment via Web Companion. What is the best practise to to test utag.sync.js deployments then? 3. I need to add a Webtrends tag to a website to enable us to do some additional Event Tracking. When I do this though, the Webtrends tag by Tealium gets overridden by the Webtrends tag that is already on the page (in the HTML template, not included via Tealium). I can see that when I block the existing tag, i.e. /js/webtrends.load.js, via Fiddler, my Tealium tag fires. I would probably need to set the main Object of Webtrends to a different name to avoid that. But I don't see such an option in the WT tag configuration settings in Tealium. Thanks for any help!

lukas_oldenburg · ‎11-10-2014

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