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sriram_devadas · ‎03-19-2015

Hi Seth, This is what I am making now: a program (or existing Jenkins plugin) which reads new email, processes it and moves it to deleted items. The Jenkins job calls this program and hooks into the process part to do whatever we have to do - including separating mails by envs since ops is not really interested in non prod publishes, publishing Tealium publish history to the wiki etc. While it should work, from a user point of view it is much better to have access to an API for automation like this. More about why we are adding this process: In our case, Tealium pixel publishes happen outside the normal release cycle and often dont go through the same test/validation cycle other code does. Recently we have had some issues where we want ops to have better visibility into Tealium publications while triaging prodution issues. Tealium JavaScript is loaded late asynchronously, but issues in the code could (and has) caused issues with other late loading JavaScript. This includes SiteCatalyst which while loaded via Tealium needs a 100% uptime. This is not a Tealium issue per se, more to do with how we release pixel code out-of-band with less QA. Thanks, Sriram

sriram_devadas · ‎03-18-2015

Hi, Is there a way to query for a publish notification (say via API call)? We currently use the email notification feature to let our ops know about Tealium publishes, but we would like to have our internal Jenkins jobs to query for publish information regularly and take some action. Any advice on this is appreciated. Thanks, Sriram

sriram_devadas · ‎09-30-2014

Another piece of info I learned was that most of the bounces are from organic search channel i.e. via Google searches. Sriram

sriram_devadas · ‎09-29-2014

Hi Roshan, Here is the data. I took 2 time slices - Aug 11 to 29 and Sept 8 to Sept 26. These roughly represent Chrome 36 and Chrome 37 (with some overlap). Leaving out Sept 1st week to reduce impact of Labor day weekend related traffic. Over these 2 time periods, I checked the change in metrics for desktop google browsers (Chrome all versions - mostly 36 and 37) and desktop microsoft browsers (IE all versions - mostly 11, 10, 9, 8). Page views (mean) - Increase of 38.71 % for Chrome - Increase of 16.19% for IE Visits (mean) - Increase of 65.93% % for Chrome - Increase of 14.44% for IE Bounces (mean) - Increase of 353.88% for Chrome - Increase of 16.67% for IE Bounce rate (mean) - Increase of 174.15 % for Chrome (from 10.56 to 28.95) - Increase of 11.02% for IE (from 7.71 to 7.96) Orders (mean) - Increase of 34.36% for Chrome - Increase of 14.52% for IE I can send the actual numbers if that helps. In general there is a bigger increase for all stats in Chrome, but the visits, bounces and bounce rate seem to have increased far more than the page views and orders. I am not sure what this means and if it helps form any hypothesis related to Chrome 37 and/or Tealium js. Any help is appreciated. Let me know if I should mail the actual numbers. Thanks, Sriram

sriram_devadas · ‎09-29-2014

Hi Roshan, Thanks for offering to help. I will run some tests to cross-check my assertions (comparing with other browsers to ensure the increase was not due to normal holiday season increases etc.). Will post the data here by EOD today. Sriram

sriram_devadas · ‎09-27-2014

Hi, We use SiteCatalyst for reporting and Tealium as the tag management system. We use the SiteCatalyst AppMeasurement tag. Recently Google Chrome 37 was released. We see a general uptick in bounce rate, visits, orders, revenue in Chrome 37 as compared to Chrome 36 in SiteCatalyst. It is as if all metrics (negative or positive) are reported in greater numbers. Could this be due to something about Chrome 37 which causes Tealium to be loaded differently? Any other thoughts on this trend? Thanks, Sriram

sriram_devadas · ‎07-16-2014

Will do. Thanks, Sriram

sriram_devadas · ‎07-16-2014

You are right about secure.main.mytestsite.com. About different profiles for different locations, this would be a maintenance problem for us. Currently we have one profile which handles all domains (mytestsite.com, mytestsite.jp, and several other locales). In terms of cookies: main.mytestsite.com -> utag_main main.mytestsite.jp -> utag_main While I understand that these are different domains, it would be great if we could have just 2 profiles and have a cookie which is associated with each profile. main.mytestsite.com -> utag_main main.mytestsite.jp -> utag_main etc. secondary.mytestsite.com -> utag_main_secondary secondary.mytestsite.jp -> utag_main_secondary etc. Is there some way to do this? The alternative would be for us to create as many profiles as we have locales for one or both: main and secondary, which is something we would like to avoid.

sriram_devadas · ‎07-15-2014

Thanks Ty. I missed a constraint: Can the domain field take wildcards? Main site is actually -> *main.mytestsite.* examples: main.mytestsite.com, secure.mytestsite.com, main.mytestsite.jp, secure.mytestsite.jp etc. This is a finite but largish list. and similarly Secondary site is -> *secondary.mytestsite.*

sriram_devadas · ‎07-15-2014

We have a different product offering running in a subdomain of our main site. Say main.mytestsite.com -> Main site secondary.mytestsite.com -> Different product but uses subdomain We have a different tags/library/profile for main and secondary. The problem is the utag_main cookie needs to be different for each profile, otherwise anything stored in the cookie will collide. Advice on how to solve this problem? Thanks, Sriram

sriram_devadas · ‎06-16-2014

Hi, On our site, the entry (gateway) module does a redirect and removes the referrer in certain cases. Since we want the referrer to send to SiteCatalyst, as a workaround, we are planning to write the referrer into a cookie early in our processing pipeline, so it is available later. Just wanted to confirm that I can read from the cookie and set the relevant SiteCatalyst parameter in Tealium utag.js. What is the best way to do this? Thanks, Sriram

sriram_devadas · ‎05-28-2014

Feature request: Would it be possible to make â save asâ the default for a publish. Currently the â saveâ button is highlighted, and I need to remember to click on 'save as' each time. Not sure about the normal workflow, but 'save as' is the option we want to go to all the time. Thanks, Sriram

sriram_devadas · ‎05-01-2014

Hi Clint, Will do. Thanks, Sriram

sriram_devadas · ‎05-01-2014

The script is agnostic of the utag.*.js. It creates a html with only the utag.js path for the configured envs and does a get. From the response it extracts the utag.*.js source paths and does a get on each of them. Based on a config file, it tries to guess which tag the utag.*.js file is for and renames it thus - e.g. utag_SiteCatalyst.js. The guess is based on the tag's CDN url. If it cant do it, it just names it as utag_0.js, utag_1.js etc. I guess if this happens, we lose numbering. Basically it behaves just like our site does, in a stripped down manner. We have instrumented our load rules so the request can run against all tags. Hope I am not missing anything.

sriram_devadas · ‎05-01-2014

Thanks Fiann. I had considered using the zipfile (https://community.tealiumiq.com/questions/86476), wanted to stay as close as possible to how our website actually downloads the utag.*.js files at runtime.

sriram_devadas · ‎05-01-2014

I made a ruby script which uses browser automation to pull in our utag.*.js files, which we can then commit to our local source control. It does this by creating a small html snippet with the loader and then from there makes requests to the correct utag files. It expects a load rule which allows this script to access all tags. If the load rule is not present, the utag.*.js may or may not be pulled in based on constraining load rules. When run as a job on a regular basis, it can be used to detect diff's and check in only when there is a publish. https://gist.github.com/anonymous/b84c8f09ac79370792e2 I would like to open source this on github, if it is useful to others. Is it okay to do so? Any advice? Thanks, Sriram

sriram_devadas · ‎04-30-2014

I am able to publish to only one custom environment from the GUI. Is there a way to publish to multiple custom environments in one action? If not, can this feature be added? It is useful since we push to load, pre-prod environments at the same time.

sriram_devadas · ‎04-15-2014

Need advice on a couple of scenarios: 1. Whitelist by first part of url: We have a SiteCatalyst tag running against a locale based subset of our site. We currently do this by using separate Tealium profiles for each locale we want to use with SiteCatalyst tag. We intend to go site wide with Tealium in our next release, using one main profile. But we would still like SiteCatalyst to be constrained to a set of locales initially. This locale list can be identified by the first part of the url. www.oursite.ca -> allow SiteCatalyst www.oursite.jp -> allow SiteCatalyst Dont allow any other urls Later, when we are ready for SiteCatalyst for the whole site, we just want to remove this condition and let the traffic flow for all urls. What options do I have in Tealium? Would like these changes to be minimal and preferable in one place. 2. Once we go site wide, for some time we want to limit traffic to SiteCatalyst till we have worked out the licensing limits. We would like to throttle/limit traffic to a maximum in this period. Is there some way I can store some state in Tealium say for the number of times we pull down the SiteCatalyst utags? Caching probably will not allow doing this with Tealium, even if we can somehow store the traffic info in Tealium somehow. My guess is we need to handle this on our site in the datalayer and have Tealium just read and decide on the value we store there. Any thoughts or advice? Thanks, Sriram

sriram_devadas · ‎04-04-2014

Does Tealium's code generation have any security or sanitization checks while it generates from the template and extension code? Something like running the Google Caja tool before the resulting JavaScript is published and possibly warning for any issues.

sriram_devadas · ‎04-02-2014

Thanks Bahman and Son. We were just considering alternate library designs with respect to deployment. One option which came up was to divide the libraries logically based on our UDO, and perhaps have separate libraries for tags. Then use this to do 'out-of-band' releases not tied to our site release cycle for new pixels etc. The question was if a library needs to reach out to another for a common data layer object, how we would do this. Your answers make sense in this scenario, libraries should not have to reach other to access each other's data layer items. We should be able to manage our requirements with self-contained libraries and multiple profiles.

sriram_devadas · ‎04-02-2014

Is it okay to publish from multiple profiles and include it on the same web page? Are there specific cases when this should be avoided?

sriram_devadas · ‎04-02-2014

Is is possible for extensions in a library to access data layer items in other libraries? If yes, is it okay to do this as a matter of best practices or something to be avoided?

sriram_devadas · ‎03-28-2014

Some questions on templates: What is the purpose of a tag's template? How is is it different from JavaScript extensions in terms of code and runtime life-cycle (when each loads and runs). If Tealium publishes a new version of a template of a tag we use, is there some way for us to know from the UI or email alerts? Are there some example use cases when a template's code need to be customized or modified from our (the client's) side? If there was some customization done on our side, and there is a new version of the template, would we have to manage the changes ourselves? Tried searching on the forum, but could not find an article specifically related to templates.

sriram_devadas · ‎03-25-2014

Thanks Jared. Another Q, we currently have one library profile and a number of extensions to support the tags. As we add tags, I was thinking the number of extensions attached to this profile might grow. Is there any recommendation you have on managing the number of extensions.

sriram_devadas · ‎03-25-2014

Hi Dan, Some background: We had a discussion about integrating the Tealium configuration and deployment process into our internal processes - mainly reviews and deployment. Few use cases which came up: 1. The ability to view the diff's between two versions of a distribution. https://community.tealiumiq.com/questions/37434 2. Checking drift between our data layer implementation (which is handled by developers) and Tealium configuration (which is handled by a Tealium admin, but may be modified by business groups). 3. Ability to publish from outside the Tealium UI, possibly from triggers in our release process. Generally any features where developers, QA or others involved may not necessary need to have Tealium logins and use the UI to do operations. I have got good solutions for questions from the forum and Tealium folks we are working with. While we understand a lot of this can be done from inside the Tealium UI, we were hoping to have access to something like a API which provide some of the capabilities as discrete programmable services. We are still learning Tealium, any thoughts you have would be useful.

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